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Over the weekend I managed to get to the local garden centre and nursery, parting with much cash, to fill up some of the blank canvas of the garden. Just a couple of little creepers are required to finish off and a few bags of chippings to uplift the path. With a good weather day in the offing and some of the noisy kids back in school, a few larger steam locos came out to play, in what turned out to be a bit of a big loco gala!

 

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On 05/05/2020 at 18:42, mick said:

Will we be seeing the MGR's?

Just for you Mick, the mgr's come out to play, along with the sleeper set.

 

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I really like that sleeper set. Looks really good. You have some really good planting along with the log rolls. The scene around the 2:08 mark is really effective.

Whats the story of the lion? Another big cat spotted wild in the West country? Are you going to fit the steps you made from the patio over the rails into the centre.  I am going to need something similar and have some screenshots of those you had over your garden railway No2.

 

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Great to see the MGR's back in action Iain, just waiting on you starting on the next batch of 18 now! 1V32 looks really good too.

Like Mark, I was going to ask about the steps your father made for the previous layout too. Did you hang on to them? Do you need them this time?

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The footbridge was dismantled when I took the old layout apart. Where the footbridge used to be, I can currently, step over the trackbed - this is made easier by raising the level of the path (on the inside).

The log roll just sort of found its way there, Mark - it had been removed from where the footbridge used to be.

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Phew! What cracking weather. 😎

There has been more work going on (planting, ballasting and soldering) than playing trains, just lately, so, before I start my next run of shifts and the weather turns, I had a little running session. All EE locomotives - my 3 x 37's and my 3 x 50's. Split into 2 films - one for each type.

 

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Nice videos Iain - just been watching them both at the same time! I bet your neighbours love the sound of those diesel horns?

I see you've made a start on the ballasting - are you intending doing all the tracks? What are you using for ballast and fixative this time?

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The noise is reciprocal Mick! They make a hell of a lot more and the language is often unprintable 😮

I intend ballasting all the track, but its an expensive job. I've spent over £100 already and that will be about 60% of the O gauge and, hopefully, all of the OO. I am using the Hattons own range of ballast - limestone fine for OO and mixed grey, coarse for the O gauge. Having used both, I think the colour, that comes somewhere between the two, would be better. I have started spraying the O gauge with Humbrol no.29, to weather it down. It looks a lot better.  The ballast is fixed with SBR polymer additive. Mist over with water & washing up liquid, before applying the sbr with a syringe. To show how well it works, after yesterdays running session, I laid and fixed some of the OO ballast. Even with the overnight rain, its all still in place. The SBR seems to bond the ballast together well and to the track. I'm not sure if it has stuck completely to the trackbed however - it feels a bit rubbery.

O gauge as laid

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O gauge after spraying

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OO as laid

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21 hours ago, ba14eagle said:

Phew! What cracking weather.....

Yes, I remember that too...wasn't it only yesterday?

I believe you used SBR on the previous layout didn't you? How highly would you recommend it? I've been quite happy with the results using exterior varnish but it acts more like casting resin and sort of encapsulates the ballast rather than just sticking it together. Would you say that SBR is a 'stick and forget' solution or one that might need redoing some time later? How did it perform last time?

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Iain, if I'd have caught up with you earlier (and I didn't think to mention it on FB), you could've used Calcisand on the O Gauge track. It's about a tenner for a 5KG bag. I'm giving all my sieved stuff to Dave for his garden once I've kept the smaller stuff for mine. I've got over two scale miles to do! 🤣

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, mick said:

Yes, I remember that too...wasn't it only yesterday?

I believe you used SBR on the previous layout didn't you? How highly would you recommend it? I've been quite happy with the results using exterior varnish but it acts more like casting resin and sort of encapsulates the ballast rather than just sticking it together. Would you say that SBR is a 'stick and forget' solution or one that might need redoing some time later? How did it perform last time?

Mick, Id only used SBR when mixing the rubbercrete - Id not tried to bond ballast with it. I had tried Astonish floor polish on Summer Hampton mark 1, which was very hit and miss. On Hampton field I used exterior grade pva, again, with mixed results.

In a couple of places, where Ive used excess, it does go white when wet, like pva used to. And this is where Ive noticed it hasn't necessarily stuck to the trackbed, but just stuck the ballast and the track - if there is a bit of a void under the track that hasn't been filled with ballast, the track and ballast will spring up and down, as one.

As far as durability is concerned, yes, I think it will last - unless it forms ice crystals within the bonding, during the Winter - that might be a problem. But, as its a polymer, I don't think that is likely to happen.

Thanks for the tip about the calcisand Mike - I will look into it, if I need much more. 

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So, after yesterdays frustrations with the On30 and OO, I cleaned up the O gauge and gave some recent purchases a run out.
The Heljan Hymek has had sound fitted by YouChoos, who, luckily for me, are only about 5 miles away. The 2 plate wagons are kit built and thus very light - lots of weight soon got them to stay on the track. Unfortunately, the builder has put some plate loads on them - I had a different plan, but hey ho. The hoppers suffer from the same issues - hence the temporary addition of the golf balls! The 12t open (Skytrex) has a massive lump of weight in it - that was only gonna pull everything else off! The brake van isnt new, but has now got a working tail lamp.
 
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I enjoyed that Iain!

Doesn't the OO gauge track look tiny alongside the O gauge though? It's strange because someone just commented on one of my videos to say that he couldn't tell whether it was O or OO gauge and looking at them singularly I do think it's difficult to tell them apart at times but when viewed alongside each other as in your video there's a massive difference.

I really like those hopper wagons. I've got a batch of them (in OO gauge that is) in need of weathering but there's a lengthy queue ahead of them at the moment when I get 'roundtuit'. I'm not sure what the OO gauge equivalent of a golf ball would be - perhaps a mint imperial?

Tail lamps is another thing I'm looking to add to my trains but I'm not too bothered about them working. It's one of those little things that stands out a mile as a train passes minus its rear lamp. Just need to sort out the rakes so I know which wagons are best fitted with lamps.

It's amazing how quickly the plants have filled in and I see they're already encroaching onto the oo gauge tracks. Looks really well established now.

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